Authors and/or Twine buffs Needed--
Greetings to each of you, I hope your day is going well.
*Sighs* I'm sorry everyone...I hate to say this but I've decided I'm not cut out for this, ( and apparently nor am I cut out for this website since I accidentally deleted a comment on my game. The comment mostly gave a negative review towards the story's creation, and honestly I strongly agree. Just keep reading and I'll explain).
I can't find it in me to continue this project, and for that I am sincerely sorry. After some reflecting and processing,I've completely lost the confidence I once had in this. In comparison to the numerous authors I've become a fan of and had been a great inspired me, I am significantly inadequate and coming to terms with this was painful. I am a 37 year old amateur artist at best, and even far less of a writer. It just simply is what it is.
So since I lack skill in both Twine and writing, I'd like to ask for some help in making this still possible. The concept for this story has all been planned entirely, with the plot complete and ready, I've spent three years trying to find a way to publish it in story form only for it to come down to this. However, I don't want to let my subscribers down and leave them with an open ended tale. A majority of those subscribers are people who I've formed a community with based on Twine and CYOA stories, and this is one I'd like to try and continue for them to see through if possible.
If you happen to be a writer and/or are competent with coding Twine, I'd like to ask for your help and partnership in this as the new author of this project. You can find me on Discord: xsaikoticx. From there we can discuss anything you'd like to know.If no one takes up on the offer, all hope is not lost. I still have a three year old unfinished novel I'm still chipping away at -outside of the time I spend as a parent- that will be published someday. (Hopefully my writing will improve as I finish it.) Again I am sincerely sorry, and I mean that. Thank you all for taking interest in this story, you're awesome people.
Sinner's Haven
In this city that Heaven abandoned, everyone falls from grace.
Status | In development |
Author | xSai |
Genre | Interactive Fiction, Role Playing |
Tags | Adult, Horror, Romance, Text based, Twine |
More posts
- Don't worry, I haven't given up yet.4 days ago
- Sorry for the delay, next part should be out soon enough.68 days ago
- Sinner's Haven has been releasedJun 21, 2025
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All I have to say is this:
Was my comment condescending? Yes, I was a bit of an asshat. I left all my comments on, because I didn't want to pretend I wasn't.
BUT: I don't allow myself to say anything nearly as mean or non-sensical as y'all do, or to devolve into such emotional vomiting one can see all over here.
Half the time I feel like people who answer my comment are talking to someone else (my image washed together with mean critics of the past or straight up imaginary ones, I can only guess), and about stuff I did not say at all (e.g.: "I will shut the fuck up, when...") That was actually one of you, who wrote that
Calling my original comment 'cruel' is ridiculous. If you think that's cruel, I don't know what to say. It wasn't kind, I can sign for that. (Btw, are you acting like the paragons of kindness here? Oh, of course, you're better than me, more supportive than me, so you are allowed to be mean to someone else while white-knighting, straw-manning and cursing. I see, alright, my bad.)
All in all: will you look at yourselves and your comments for a second please? You feeling righteous makes you do worse things than I did. Stop spiralling, egging each other on and making epic drama where there is none.
Bless y'all
Ps.:
I'm not going to answer to anything here anymore, as I'm sure none of you bother to try to understand where I'm coming from. You seem extremely happy in your self-righteous outrage circle. Have fun, but know this: you are doing the same, and worse things, which you are stoning me for
I honestly don’t even know where to start because I am completely hooked on this story. From the first moment I started reading, I was drawn in so hard that I couldn’t stop — it’s the kind of writing that grabs you by the heart and refuses to let go. Every paragraph pulled me deeper, every chapter left me wanting more, and I’ve been eagerly waiting for updates because this story is addictive in the best possible way. I’ve been quiet up until now because life’s been hectic, but I realize I should have commented sooner to let you know how much your work means to me.
Now, about the critique that’s caused so much trouble: the points you raised aren’t just blunt, they’re misleading and dismissive. You say the story is “too long,” but pacing isn’t about length — it’s about engagement. And I, for one, was completely engaged. You claim contradictions in character behavior, yet what you’re calling inconsistency is nuance. People can be conflicted; they can both resent and care at the same time. That’s depth, not error. You sneered at clarifications like the coded dialogue or the character’s source of bodies — but not everyone catches subtle cues the first time, and explaining things isn’t a flaw, it’s clarity for the audience. You mock the tone, but style is subjective, and the tone chosen fits the story perfectly. And AI? Irrelevant. What matters is the story itself — which you clearly weren’t paying attention to.
Funny how you admit your “feedback” destroyed their will to write, but instead of apologizing sincerely, you double down on being “right.” Feedback isn’t just about what you say, but how you say it. What you gave wasn’t constructive—it was cruel, and it shows you care more about hearing yourself critique than about helping someone grow. You obliterated their confidence, positioned yourself as a mentor, and then admitted you weren’t even equipped to judge English writing? You don’t get to swing the wrecking ball and then pretend you’re there to hold the bricks. Critique points out flaws while still nurturing the spark that keeps a creator going. What you did wasn’t critique, it was cruelty. When the author shared how deeply your words crushed them, you didn’t take a step back and say, “Wow, maybe I came across too harsh.” No—you doubled down. And it says a lot more about your need to hear yourself sound clever than it does about the author’s talent. If this is your version of “help,” you should stop pretending it benefits anyone but your own ego.
You suggest that the narrative is unoriginal, though you never point to a single example of where it allegedly borrows or fails to innovate. Meanwhile, the originality lies in how familiar human struggles are refracted through the author’s particular lens — something your critique never acknowledges. Calling something “derivative” without substantiation is not criticism; it’s handwaving. Perhaps the issue is less with the author’s prose and more with your unwillingness to sit with nuance that doesn’t announce itself in neon. Depth is not measured by how loudly a theme shouts at you, but by how long it lingers after the page is turned.
Author, you are not inadequate, you are not talentless, and you are not “less than” because someone came in swinging with an ego instead of empathy. You had the courage to take an idea you’ve carried for years and bring it to life in a format most people never even try. That alone makes you a creator. And here’s the truth: “inexperienced” isn’t an insult—it’s a stage. Every single writer, even the ones this critic probably idolizes, started where you are now. Progress is built on persistence, not on being flawless from the start. Keep telling your stories, because your voice matters, and don’t let anyone convince you otherwise. Your work is powerful, emotional, and engaging — it hooks readers, builds a community, and leaves people like me eagerly waiting for more.
Here’s the thing: people don’t remember the critics. They remember the stories. They remember the characters that made them feel something, the worlds that gave them escape, the author who took the risk to share something personal. In ten years, no one will care about this critique—but they will care if the author keeps creating, keeps growing, keeps daring to put their voice out there. So author, keep going. Be imperfect. Be messy. Be bold. Because every page you write is one more page the world wouldn’t have without you. Your community has your back.
Critic, sit down, shut the fuck up, and maybe learn the difference between constructive feedback and malicious theatrics.
You don't know how to write and you don't know how to make a valid argument. I can't do anything with whatever this is trying to be
"Malicious theatrics"...damn, the irony is...world class
I don’t know how to write? If my writing were truly without merit, you wouldn’t have felt the need to respond. If my argument had no weight, you wouldn’t be deflecting instead of addressing the actual points I laid out. I made clear, specific points about your approach and its effect, and you chose to ignore them. That says more about you than about me.
Yes, you engaged in malicious theatrics — that’s not an insult, it’s a description of what you did: you demolished a beginner’s confidence with glee, then doubled down instead of reflecting. That isn’t critique, that’s cruelty. And nothing I said was ironic. What's ironic is your claim to be helping while actively trying to snuff someone out.
If all you can do in response is dismiss, deflect, and twist words you barely use correctly, then you’re proving my point: you care more about performance than substance. Critics sharpen art; hecklers just make noise. Right now, you’re not critiquing — you’re heckling.
Yikes, I didn't mean to obliterate your will to write, sorry about that! :I
I get a bit, uh, riled up when I see something that could be good but isn't; it frustrates me in a weird way and then I might leave critiques without pulling my punches...with that said, I'm not taking any of it back, 'cause I think my points are valid
As I said before, and I chose these words deliberately: you're "an inexperienced writer", not a talentless one. And as you're aware, you lack skill. You do, but - while outsourcing your writing may be the more sensible option - is that what you really want?
Won't you try to get better instead?
I - could assist you. I'm not ghost-writing for anyone, but I can advise you about your writing and discuss plotholes, inconsistencies, POVs, style, rhythm etc.
Keep in mind, English is my second language, so I'm less likely to be able to help you there
Funny how you admit your “feedback” destroyed their will to write, but instead of apologizing sincerely, you double down on being “right.” Feedback isn’t just about what you say, but how you say it. What you gave wasn’t constructive—it was cruel, and it shows you care more about hearing yourself critique than about helping someone grow. You obliterated their confidence, positioned yourself as a mentor, and then admitted you weren’t even equipped to judge English writing? You don’t get to swing the wrecking ball and then pretend you’re there to hold the bricks. Critique points out flaws while still nurturing the spark that keeps a creator going. What you did wasn’t critique, it was cruelty. When the author shared how deeply your words crushed them, you didn’t take a step back and say, “Wow, maybe I came across too harsh.” No—you doubled down. And it says a lot more about your need to hear yourself sound clever than it does about the author’s talent. If this is your version of “help,” you should stop pretending it benefits anyone but your own ego.
Thank you for your comment it helped more than you know. I would like to give it one more shot at this, especially since someone has offered to help as a guide with coding Twine.
I thank the critic for pointing out the errors, though I understand that I can't make everyone happy. So I stopped caring. Only reason I was close to giving up was because they noted the concept was really the only good thing about it. My faith in my work was already precarious since the day I posted it.
I didn't want to mention this since I felt it wasn't much of an achievement before on my behalf, but I remember that the mayor of our city personally met with me along with 4 other students after reading a prologue I once wrote for a story back in high school. We were selected out of the several in various writing classes and invited to a dinner party to receive an award. Just like this one, not everyone would have liked that story, and that's fine. All I have to say to them is this- show me your professionally Twine story I'll gladly shut the fuck up. Currently I see none on your page. English isn't my first language either, but I didn't use that as an excuse not to try. Anyways, they know that if they don't like it they don't have to return for the next update. Nonetheless I thank them for taking the time they wasted on reading this far.
I'm grateful that a very good friend of mine, Carolina, pointed this out to me. I would have never seen the responses on this since I had been avoiding it like the plague. I thank Carolina, Hopelight2000, and BeastInTheCave sincerely since they all helped to restore my motivation. The next update will be to honor you guys for encouraging me when I needed it most.
Hell yeah! I’m so glad to hear this. The fact that you’re giving it another shot speaks volumes about your strength as a writer. And honestly? That “not much of an achievement” moment you mentioned — being personally invited and awarded by the mayor for your writing — that’s HUGE. Don’t downplay that. Recognition like that doesn’t happen to just anyone, and it shows that even back then, your words had real power.
That critic’s comment was absolute garbage, and I’m so glad you didn’t let it stop you. Seeing you continue in spite of that fucking asshole actually inspired me to finally start putting my own work here. You’ve got more backbone than most, and it shows in your writing. Keep doing what you do, because people like me needed to see it. And if you’re open to it, I’d love to hear what you think about a story I’ve been working on too — no pressure, I’d just be curious to get your perspective since your courage and skill have already inspired me to take the leap.
I also love how you turned it back on the critic with, “show me your professionally made Twine story and I’ll gladly shut the fuck up.” Exactly. Anyone can swing from the sidelines, but until they step into the arena and create something of their own, their demolition act means nothing. And I respect you even more for pointing out that English isn’t your first language — but you never used that as an excuse not to try. You just put your work out there, and it’s connecting with people. That’s courage.
I’m honestly honored you mentioned me by name. To know that my words helped you hold onto your passion means more than I can say. Your stories do matter, and you’ve already proven that they can move people — myself included. I’ll be here, cheering you on, ready to read every new update you share. And if you ever want someone who’s actually willing to edit and build you up instead of tear you down (cough cough fuck the critic cough cough), I’m here.
Keep going — you’ve got a community behind you, and we’re not going anywhere.
Thank you so much, that really made my week to see this. And I'd be more than happy to see your work, I can tell you have the skill for it already. :) There needs to be more people like you in this world, you have a natural way of motivating and encouraging people even when they're at their lowest. It's those like you who deserve only the best in life.
Oh, wow? What an ego trip and utterly unemphatic comment.
Most writing in IFs is pretty amateur since most of us are just people doing this as a hobby, so please do not feel discouraged from continuing. Writing like most art is just editing and reediting until one gets something that one is semi- happy with.
And, from what I read I think that your writing is actually pretty good.
I am somewhat experienced with Twine (Sugarcube) and I also know javascript, so I could help you out with coding or if you just need advice.
I am not an expert by any means, but I am usually able to figure out solutions for the issues I encounter by foraging through the documentation for Twine and Html5.
However, that often can be very time-consuming, so I understand that most people simply do not have the free time to do that.
If you are interested in speaking about this further, I have sent you a friendship request on Discord.
Would you be open to helping me as well? The author’s courage to keep going really inspired me to finally try bringing my own story here. They mentioned you by name, and I’ve read your work — honestly, it’s amazing! The way you handled character creation really stood out to me; it made the player feel like they were inside the story. That’s exactly the kind of depth I’d love to capture too, and maybe even take it a step further in some areas.
I already know the direction I want to take with the story, but I’m not great with Twine — so guidance there would mean a lot.
If you’re willing, that would be incredible! And if not, I totally understand — no pressure at all. Either way, I really admire what you’ve built.
Btw, thank you for helping inspire the author to keep going. You’re a good person.
I am always happy to help. Whether you have questions about HTML5 in general or you ran into an issue in Twine. Also, thank you so much for playing my games. That honestly means a lot to me.